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Through the Ages 2013 - Judge doll by zapatones Through the Ages 2013 - Judge doll by zapatones
Base is Alice [link] by ~dances-with-weasels

My judge doll based on 17th century Spanish fashion. Reference: [link]

I was keeping this a secret till the pageant opened but ~Jinx-YouOweMe-A-Coke posted hers and I couldn't resist.
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Given 2013-10-28
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SailorMariah Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
Ah, la Infanta... I love the colors and details on this so much, you have no idea. :love: It even looks like real velvet! Props for picking this period, too, you just don't see enough of this era of fashion on DA. And I love how you made her dark-complexioned, instead of ridonkulously pale like in all of those Velasquez portraits.
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013

If someone could get their skintones right, that would be Velázquez :P The assumption that Spanish people are dark-skinned is an exaggeration which has other origins-- political rivalry-- and has no real genetic base. If you came over here, you'd be surprised at how pale-- pasty, even-- we can be.

This was a judge doll for a dolling contest called Through the Ages, where you have to make up a character and dress them according to the fashion of their times for three rounds. I participated last year and won, so I became a judge for this year's. The idea behind these dolls, which you can check on the site by clicking the Judges link, was to draw ourselves following our favourite historical fashion style. Hence the dark hair and eyes; those are mine. There's not enough Spanish fashion or culture around and I just had to go for these humongous dresses I adore. The skin was a happy accident when I played with the colour settings, it looked better with orange hues in there rather than the paler ones it originally had. I may have lost some accuracy but it looks much better this way. Thanks a lot for the comment :D

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SailorMariah Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Oh, I know about the whole Spanish people=dark skin/hair fallacy. ;) Lots of non-Spanish people make that mistake, especially in the Western Hemisphere. Just look at The Tudors -- they chose a dark-haired Irish actress to play Catherine of Aragon, despite the real Catherine being auburn (but then again, all of the actors in that show look nothing like their real counterparts whatsoever, to say nothing of the costumes CURSE YOU! ). I just applauded your decision to make your doll dark-skinned due to the fact that I'm dark-skinned myself (I'm biracial). Plus, she looks great in red velvet -- good call on the color selection! And btw, I did check out some of your "Through The Ages" dolls, and they look amazing. Learned a lot of cool Spanish history too, while I was at it. :D (Big Grin) 
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zapatones Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013

I'm sorry if I sounded too blunt with the skin colour thing, people just assume things and I tend to get too defensive about my country. After all, it's my reality. I admit that I've never attempted shading non-white skin, probably because I'm white and most people around me are too.

It's even sadder when you get to know when those stereotypes were created and why. And to think there's still people who believe them and go around claiming that there's no way Spanish people can have fair skin and hair or a particular eye colour. Ugh, The Tudors, I'm not that knowledgeable about TV shows based on them, but most historical series I've watched or heard of make me want to scream. It's okay to make up facts and create a fictional account of whatever you wish. But that doesn't mean that you can change history to meet the audience's expectations. Most people do not realise that these shows are actually the best way to approach people to history and that, as such, they are really powerful weapons. However, since all they care about is getting more audience, they basically turn history into a mockery of itself and sell cheap sex scenes and random facts without even consulting any respectable expert on those topics. Btw is there a single series on the Tudors that has a blonde woman playing Catherine? 

I'm glad you liked my other entries and learnt something from them. It's shocking how much people misinterpret Spain and have such a limited-- and manipulated-- vision on its history and culture. Thanks for your reply. It's refreshing to deal with these topics in such a calm manner :D

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SailorMariah Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013
No problem! :) (And btw, I totally agree with all your points).
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Purple146 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
cute :) 
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thank you :D
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Purple146 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:)
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TheGalleryOfEve Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Congratulations on your well-deserved DD!!! :iconflyingheartsplz::iconlainloveplz::iconflyingheartsplz: :clap::clap::clap:
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thanks! :)
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Black-Feather Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
The detail is stunning!
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thank you ;) This is the fun part of dolling, cramming as much details as you can on the smallest size possible.
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AquaGalaxy Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
congratulations on the DD award! c:
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thank you :heart:
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blanket86 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Very interesting and beautiful work! I like this style! Congratulations! Great idea!
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thanks! I love historical fashion so I had a lot of fun working on this :)
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MistyCascade Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I favorited this one before it got a DD. so congratulations! A well deserved DD
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thank you so much both for faving and commenting on my work! :D
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mizzmint Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Congrats on having your piece featured as one of today's DD's! :cuddle:
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thank you! It was a great start to a Monday :D
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mizzmint Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're very welcome :hug:

I'll bet :giggle:
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StaraptorB Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
Congratulations on the well-deserved DD! :)
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thanks a lot
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StaraptorB Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014
 you're welcome!
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lintu47 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
    Congrats on the DD! :dalove: Have a nice day! :heart:
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thanks! Have a great day too :D
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lintu47 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
    My pleasure, thank you :happybounce:
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Kirschenwasser Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Congratulation to the well deserved DD! Sun Heart
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thank you! :D
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strawberri-hail Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
Congrats on the DD, Zappy!
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zapatones Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Thank you! :hug:
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strawberri-hail Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
You're welcome. :hug:
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TheThirdAct Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013
That is so great.

I've love the inspirational (referential) portrait you used. It was in my Spanish classroom in high school and I always liked to stare at it. Maybe I'll actually enter the contest this year - I always say that but we shall seeeeee.
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zapatones Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013
Gotta love Veláquez. I grew up with my dad's artbook collections and Velázquez's was always missing from the shelf. My dad had several studies on his work. The one that I remember the most, partly because I contributed to it, was the one he did on the Forge of Vulcan [link]. I was like three or four back then and my great contribution was adding wheels to that piece of armour on the right :P

Enter! This could be epic if you finally do. Do I have to beg? :please:
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DulcetFancy Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You finished it! I remember seeing you sketching it out, and fiddling with her skirt and such. It's lovely! She looks lovely. :D
Now that you've put this up, that can only mean one thing! Pageant time! :eager: This is one pageant I'm saving all of my energy for. Can't wait.
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zapatones Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
I'll let you know when it's ready ;) Aurora and I will certainly spam you with journals on it. Hopefully, we'll get enough people interested. You can start by choosing a time and place and begin your research. I will show no mercy this year :mwahaha:
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DulcetFancy Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Heheh, you mean I get a head start? :D
No, mercy hmm? That means I get to be challenged, you know how I love to be challenged! The more challenging the better. :giggle:
Did I just dig myself into a deep hole by saying that? LOLOL.
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zapatones Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
That's what contests are for, to push yourself beyond your limits. And having fun, of course, but focus on the pushing or I'll have to do it myself XD

Trust me, it's not a head start. More of a warning :mwahaha: No, seriously, when the pageant opens you have to reserve a time period (century) and place, so you may want to be quick.
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DulcetFancy Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Heheheh! I love being pushed, so push away my friend!

I think I already have a particular era I want...so I'll be as quick as I can so nobody else can take it. Hopefully, it won't be popular enough...:fingerscrossed:
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Zepnoc Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Cool
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zapatones Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
Thanks :D
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IridescentStardust Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
*Keeps clicking back and forth between this and the base*
Oh my god I love massive base-edits xD Like I can only barely kind of recognize the hands

Anyways this looks lovely ;-; I love those shiny embroidery details, and her face is so soft and young looking <3 It really does remind me of those old paintings. Awesome job ;_;
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zapatones Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
That's funny, because I only used the body (without the arms) and added the hands myself XD It's a very generic pose so it may look similar to those that came with the base.

Thank you so much:hug:
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IridescentStardust Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
XDDD omfg I must be looking too hard then XD!!
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zapatones Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
XD It's ok. Who would use an armless base? XD
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Breebles Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Wow that's gorgeous. I love the amount of detail you manage to shove into your dolls without overloading them. The colors are gorgeous.

I always want to enter historical pageants, cause I love history, but then I get pissed off at pretty-not-accurate dolls winning. Also, TTA concept bothered me.
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zapatones Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013
Thank you :hug: That must have been because of Pyro's talks about simplicity :P

I feel the same way with Miss Doll Europe/International pageants, because sometimes people throw accuracy out of the window, but hey, it's all for fun, right? :)

I love history, especially that part of history dealing with the not so well-known aspects of it, like linguistics, attitudes towards death, health and cleanliness, dress code and fashion etc. I'm not that much into the political part, though. May I ask what bothered you? It's mainly curiosity but also a way to get feedback.
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Breebles Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
The set up mostly. I don't really remember now but I think the way it was stripped down to specific time and place was really really limiting. I get why, because it forced consistency, but I found it really limiting. Part of what I love about historical fashion is the way different places had similar styles but they were all different to the specific area. I would have gotten bored doing the same exact place and that requires a lot of specific research. But I could be remembering it wrongly now.
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